LessonsReports of ʿAmr ibn ʿUbayd: Attribution, Conflicting Accounts and Evidence of CriticismQuiz

وَحَدَّثَنِي حَجَّاجُ بْنُ الشَّاعِرِ، حَدَّثَنَا سُلَيْمَانُ بْنُ حَرْبٍ، حَدَّثَنَا ابْنُ زَيْدٍ، يَعْنِي حَمَّادًا، قَالَ: قِيلَ لِأَيُّوبَ: إِنَّ عَمْرَو بْنَ عُبَيْدٍ رَوَى عَنِ الْحَسَنِ، قَالَ: لَا يُجْلَدُ السَّكْرَانُ مِنَ النَّبِيذِ. فَقَالَ: كَذَبَ، أَنَا سَمِعْتُ الْحَسَنَ يَقُولُ: يُجْلَدُ السَّكْرَانُ مِنَ النَّبِيذِ.
Translation: Through Ḥajjāj b. al-Shāʿir, Sulaymān b. Ḥarb and Ḥammād b. Zayd it is reported that Ayyūb was told ʿAmr ascribed to al-Ḥasan the view that one intoxicated by nabīdh should not be flogged. Ayyūb said he had lied about that attribution, saying that he himself had heard al-Ḥasan state the opposite.

This is counterevidence based on direct hearing: Ayyūb contrasts what he heard from al-Ḥasan with what was attributed to him. It directly challenges this attribution but is not a complete inventory of every possible historical route.

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Reports of ʿAmr ibn ʿUbayd: Attribution, Conflicting Accounts and Evidence of Criticism

وَحَدَّثَنِي حَجَّاجُ بْنُ الشَّاعِرِ، حَدَّثَنَا سُلَيْمَانُ بْنُ حَرْبٍ، حَدَّثَنَا ابْنُ زَيْدٍ، يَعْنِي حَمَّادًا، قَالَ: قِيلَ لِأَيُّوبَ: إِنَّ عَمْرَو بْنَ عُبَيْدٍ رَوَى عَنِ الْحَسَنِ، قَالَ: لَا يُجْلَدُ السَّكْرَانُ مِنَ النَّبِيذِ. فَقَالَ: كَذَبَ، أَنَا سَمِعْتُ الْحَسَنَ يَقُولُ: يُجْلَدُ السَّكْرَانُ مِنَ النَّبِيذِ.
Translation: Through Ḥajjāj b. al-Shāʿir, Sulaymān b. Ḥarb and Ḥammād b. Zayd it is reported that Ayyūb was told ʿAmr ascribed to al-Ḥasan the view that one intoxicated by nabīdh should not be flogged. Ayyūb said he had lied about that attribution, saying that he himself had heard al-Ḥasan state the opposite.

This is counterevidence based on direct hearing: Ayyūb contrasts what he heard from al-Ḥasan with what was attributed to him. It directly challenges this attribution but is not a complete inventory of every possible historical route.